• ARDC/IP Address

    From kk4qbn@VERT/KK4QBN to All on Wed Aug 21 12:48:34 2024
    Have any of you guys used the ARDC portal at ampr.org to request any of the free IP address(es) available to amateur radio operators yet??

    I'm in the midst of doing this now, other than just experimentation I really have no other need for them now, but hey, they are available, they are free.. might as well right??

    So if you have done this, what are you using you addresses for? gateways? repeaters?

    Let me know, I think this is very cool and would like to know other peoples thoughts, feelings, etc on the subject.


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  • From echicken@VERT/ECBBS to kk4qbn on Wed Aug 21 15:05:55 2024
    Re: ARDC/IP Address
    By: kk4qbn to All on Wed Aug 21 2024 12:48:34

    Have any of you guys used the ARDC portal at ampr.org to request any of the free IP address(es) available to amateur radio operators yet??

    I did ages ago, but I never really did anything with the allocation they gave me and I think it eventually got released back into the pool.

    I believe Cyan still has some address space from them that he uses. You'd know him as the guy who wrote the Synchronet IRCD. If you can get in touch with him, he'd be able to tell you about his experience.

    Let me know, I think this is very cool and would like to know other peoples thoughts, feelings, etc on the subject.

    A bit of scandal a few years back when ARDC sold off a chunk of the address space to (I think) Amazon. Partly just on principle, partly with the question being raised of whether they even had the ownership/right to do so. They've since been using the proceeds to fund a grant, and if you have a cool digital ham radio project in mind you can apply for some of that money.

    I guess I'm okay with it if they manage the money well and use it to benefit the hobby in perpetuity. Time will tell. Most of that address space was going unused, after all. We lose radio spectrum if we don't use it too, and with less direct benefit from the proceeds of the sale.

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  • From kk4qbn@VERT/KK4QBN to echicken on Wed Aug 21 17:46:21 2024
    Re: ARDC/IP Address
    By: echicken to kk4qbn on Wed Aug 21 2024 15:05:55

    I believe Cyan still has some address space from them that he uses. You'd know him as the guy who wrote the Synchronet IRCD. If you can get in touch

    Yea, I know of him. Appreciate that.

    A bit of scandal a few years back when ARDC sold off a chunk of the address space to (I think) Amazon. Partly just on principle, partly with the question being raised of whether they even had the ownership/right to do so. They've since been using the proceeds to fund a grant, and if you have a cool digital ham radio project in mind you can apply for some of that money.

    Yes, When I had first read about this it really kinda pissed me off.. I mean regardless of whether they administer them or not, who gave them the right to auction these off, and these were supposedly for amateur radio operators, and the WHOLE premise behind this is suppose to be NON PROFIT, and now these guys are swimming in money from this and appointing themselves the ones to decide whether we (the people who are suppose to have these IP addresses) get it or not, then if we do get it, we have to answer to them and fill them in every step of the way with what is done with this money.

    I get it, the range was under-utilized so hey, lets sell some off.. BUT i'm willing to bet there are TONS of amateur radio operators out there who have no idea they even exist.. It's not like they are openly trying to tell anyone. I knew nothing about it until I had first saw the news story about them selling some of it off.

    So I pretty much think, heck if I cant get some of that money from the sell, I might as well grab these up while I can before I may not even have the option to later in the future because they decided they need to sell more..

    and I really suggest others do it too. seems like some dirty politics here, I'm sure the ARRL has or had some decision making in this, and has gotten some nice operating funds off of it.

    I guess I'm okay with it if they manage the money well and use it to benefit the hobby in perpetuity. Time will tell. Most of that address space was going unused, after all. We lose radio spectrum if we don't use it too, and with less direct benefit from the proceeds of the sale.

    I hope that is what is going to happen, but you know how that is. It just seems any originization these days loves playing dirty pool, and I have seen some real dirty politics going on in the ARRL and a lot of these ham radio clubs. awful for people saying they are trying to better the communities they are in with their hobbie. anytime money is involved all bets ar off.

    So folks get out there, use that spectrum, get them IP's don't let the big guys take away what is ours. You know they will..
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  • From Reverend Shaft@VERT/ARENABBS to kk4qbn on Thu Aug 22 16:51:37 2024
    Re: ARDC/IP Address
    By: kk4qbn to echicken on Wed Aug 21 2024 05:46 pm

    I get it, the range was under-utilized so hey, lets sell some off.. BUT i'm willing to bet there are TONS of amateur radio operators out there who have no idea they even exist.. It's not like they are openly trying to tell anyone. I knew nothing about it until I had first saw the news story about them selling some of it off.

    Count me as one of the tons. I didn't even realize this was a thing.

    The closest to this I had heard was the .radio TLD.

    Worth looking into, if for no other reason than to protect IPv4 spectrum.

    RS

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